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	<title>Comments on: The Problem with TheApp</title>
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	<description>notes and rants about testing and quality from alan page</description>
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		<title>By: Shmuel Gershon</title>
		<link>http://angryweasel.com/blog/?p=492&#038;cpage=1#comment-17989</link>
		<dc:creator>Shmuel Gershon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phil,
&quot;almost as good as pairing with him&quot; ... That is praise for Rapid Reporter and the way it leads a tester to share his mind. :)
I&#039;ve seen once and again sessions that are made intelligible by Rapid Reporter. Yay.

Alan,
&quot;I do almost as much investigation into why things don’t work as I put into discovering what works (and doesn’t work).&quot;. Nice point, and good approach.
However, while the extreme of &quot;problem detection only&quot; can be harmful (and boring), the other extreme of insisting too much on an investigation can also be harmful. I was once told by a (good) manager to consider investigating less, as when it is too much I could invest this time into finding more and new problems. I think often times this is a valid consideration, and the right answer of course follows rule #17.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,<br />
&#8220;almost as good as pairing with him&#8221; &#8230; That is praise for Rapid Reporter and the way it leads a tester to share his mind. <img src='http://angryweasel.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I&#8217;ve seen once and again sessions that are made intelligible by Rapid Reporter. Yay.</p>
<p>Alan,<br />
&#8220;I do almost as much investigation into why things don’t work as I put into discovering what works (and doesn’t work).&#8221;. Nice point, and good approach.<br />
However, while the extreme of &#8220;problem detection only&#8221; can be harmful (and boring), the other extreme of insisting too much on an investigation can also be harmful. I was once told by a (good) manager to consider investigating less, as when it is too much I could invest this time into finding more and new problems. I think often times this is a valid consideration, and the right answer of course follows rule #17.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://angryweasel.com/blog/?p=492&#038;cpage=1#comment-17920</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 10:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Alan. Shmuel post was very insightful and lots of insights for myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Alan. Shmuel post was very insightful and lots of insights for myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel Silverman</title>
		<link>http://angryweasel.com/blog/?p=492&#038;cpage=1#comment-17907</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel Silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed very much the thrill of reading Shmuels investigation. This is a great way to improve my tests skills. Thank you Alan and Shmuel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed very much the thrill of reading Shmuels investigation. This is a great way to improve my tests skills. Thank you Alan and Shmuel</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Kirkham</title>
		<link>http://angryweasel.com/blog/?p=492&#038;cpage=1#comment-17885</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Kirkham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was great to read Shmuels write-up of his investigation, almost as good as pairing with him.

I&#039;ve dabbled a bit with Procmon, I&#039;ll have to dabble some more

thanks for the challenge, it could have fallen flat with no responses but turned out to be a good learning opportunity]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was great to read Shmuels write-up of his investigation, almost as good as pairing with him.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve dabbled a bit with Procmon, I&#8217;ll have to dabble some more</p>
<p>thanks for the challenge, it could have fallen flat with no responses but turned out to be a good learning opportunity</p>
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