{"id":84,"date":"2010-02-14T20:34:02","date_gmt":"2010-02-15T04:34:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/angryweasel.com\/blog\/?p=84"},"modified":"2010-02-14T20:34:02","modified_gmt":"2010-02-15T04:34:02","slug":"another-take-on-the-five-orders-of-ignorance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/angryweasel.com\/blog\/another-take-on-the-five-orders-of-ignorance\/","title":{"rendered":"Another Take on the Five Orders of Ignorance"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#160;<\/p>\n<p>I came across <a href=\"http:\/\/jangosteve.com\/post\/380926251\/no-one-knows-what-theyre-doing\">a post<\/a> this weekend about different types of knowledge It\u2019s a well written post that calls out one of my favorite topics \u2013 <em>you don\u2019t know what you don\u2019t know<\/em>. I think the <a href=\"http:\/\/www-plan.cs.colorado.edu\/diwan\/3308-07\/p17-armour.pdf\">Five Orders of Ignorance<\/a> (or my tribute to the five orders <a href=\"http:\/\/angryweasel.com\/Articles\/Abolition%20of%20Ignorance.pdf\">here<\/a>) are brilliant, and the author nails Armour\u2019s zero, first, and second level ignorance with his take on knowledge (described as \u201cshit you know, shit you don\u2019t know, and shit you don\u2019t know you don\u2019t know). 20I (read two-oh-eye) \u2013 what you don\u2019t know you don\u2019t know (aka the unknown unknowns) are a big reason why we suck at scheduling. Think about it \u2013 when we throw out estimates for how long a particular task will take, it\u2019s often half guess, and half padding because we know \u201cstuff\u201d will come up (yes, there\u2019s a lot we can do to make scheduling more accurate too, but that\u2019s a topic for another day).<\/p>\n<p>IMO, there are two pretty big things missing from this article. The first is a discussion of suitable methods to determine what we don\u2019t know we don\u2019t know (aka Armour\u2019s 30I). A passion for learning, critical thinking (and the knowledge or acknowledgement of 20I) all help us identify and solve the unknown unknowns. The way we learn is to discover what we don\u2019t know we don\u2019t know, make it something we (just) don\u2019t know, then make it something we know. We move knowledge down through the orders of ignorance \u2013 without a method for discovering what we don\u2019t know we don\u2019t know, it\u2019s just a problem that we\u2019ll never solve (or never know about). For some, I suppose that\u2019s fine, but not for people who are interested in learning.<\/p>\n<p>The second point is that the author doesn\u2019t acknowledge Armour. What\u2019s great about this is that I don\u2019t think it was on purpose &#8211; I\u2019m pretty sure the author just didn\u2019t know that Armour had already discussed the same topic in depth. 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